Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton did not use punctuation and capitalization, so that the reader wouldn't stop reading because punctuations usually indicates the reader to stop reading.In addition, capitalization indicates the reader that they have started a new sentence.
It is almost as if Toni Morrison as well as Lucile Clifton exclude the use of punctuation in order to show the idea of this is continuous and never ending. My position is that the exclusion of punctuation simply tells the reader that this was continuous, the slave trade, the slave sips, race supremacy were ideas that never reached a stop sign. Lucile Clifton also incorporates the idea of religion and faith in order to show that African Americans attempted to believe in a superior power, but during these horrific events, some lost faith, "Jesus why do you not protect us" from "slaveships" shows the decision of whether to believe in religion or not. Yes, extricating punctuation gave the idea to not stop reading and figure out the unethical and immoral actions that the world partook in. Also since punctuation isn't included, it is like fragments, or ideas derived from a slave's mind.
I thinkToni Morrison and Lucille Clifton neglect to use punctuation and capitalization when writing about the Middle Passage because maybe it wasn't meant t have punctuation, I think that it was just them pouring out their feelings like a bucket filled of emotions.
Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton didn't use punctuation because they want to show the tempo of the situation that the African American people were in. Everything was happening so fast for the African Americans on the slave ships. So Toni Morrison didn't but any punctuation because she didn't want the reading to slow or stop. She wanted to illustrate the same pace that was going on in the slave ships, in her reading.
i disagree with caroline and agree with juan because i don't think they were trying to let out there emotions for themselves . i think they were trying to make the reader feel a type of way. for example when i read it, i felt like it was emotional for me and weird as well
Maybe they wanted to explain to us that since periods at the end of a sentence mean it ended they didn't want end their sentences because slavery never ended they just wanted to keep going.
Toni Morrison and Lucille clifton neglect to use punctuation and capitalization because when reading it there is no stoping like for example in "slaveships" Lucille clifton has a fast tempo and aggressive tone and i believe she wanted the reader to maintain that tone non stop so thats why i believed they did not use any punctuation or capitalization
The lack of punctuation in both Clifton and Morrison's works contribute to an overall panicked and frantic tone. Being captured and loaded onto a slave ship is surely a nerve-wracking experience, and the long stream of words without any stops or pauses conveys this. If the line from Morrison's beloved, which reads, "...there will never be a time when I am not crouching too I am always crouching the man on my face is dead...", was to be written with correct punctuation, there would be an unfitting sense of clarity to what the narrator is saying. The narrator is emotionally distressed, so the writing is disorderly to reflect this as well. In Clifton’s poem, the narrator is distraught, and severely uncomfortable in the slave ship they’ve been forced onto, and describe the unsanitary conditions of the interior of the ship, describing as they were, “loaded like spoons into the belly of Jesus where we lay for weeks for months in the sweat and stink of our own breathing.” By omitting the punctuation from her poem, Clifton can present to the reader a large portion of hard-hitting statements in a short amount of time. Were there full stops between each description, the reader would be able to pause and process what they are reading- the constant barrage of brutal imagery overwhelms the reader and helps them share the extremely distressed feelings that the narrator is experiencing.
Everything was happening so fast for the blacks on the slave ships. I also see Elizabeth and Juan's point of view now why Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton did not use punctuation and capitalization, so that the reader wouldn't stop reading because punctuations usually indicates the reader to stop reading.
I agree with Juan and it seems to me that the Lucile Clifton didn't put any punctuation especially at what seems to be the end of the poem to show that it has a continuation indicating that this problem hasn't stopped and it has not come to a resolution any time soon. The slave ships were a big fear for the africans and they were more willing to suicide by drowning rather than to be controlled by the "white man" and become enslaved and to become less of a person in their eyes as tools or as animals to be whipped and beaten.
The poem gave me a sence of being lost and scared when it was said, " why do you not protect us" giving us a sence of reliance and attachment to religion and it is on going throughout the poem.
I think these authors do not use punctuation and capitalization to show a different style of writing to allow readers to be confused but take the time to interpret the message of the video that was shown in class.
Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton neglect to use punctuation and capitalization when writing about the middle passage because they're trying to express how the discrimination never stops and how their feelings on this subject never ends. When Clifton says "why do you not protect us chained to the heart of the Angel where the prayers we never tell and hot and red as our bloody ankles" (Clifton
Dalia Zempoalteca Period 4 The lack of punctuation indicates the none ending pain that the slaves suffered. Periods show the end to a sentence, end of an idea, end of an action. However, the pain never stopped. Slaves suffered until their last breath, " lay for weeks for months in the sweat and stink" There was no time to rest for the slaves, they only knew suffer. Commas show a pause, but yet again, pain continued. The reader can't pause because of lack of punctuation all they have to do is continue to read the pain.
Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton did not use punctuation in there writing because there writing did not end like most thoughts of black lives on slavery. They were also trying to show the tempo on how extended slavery was without an ending. Lucille Clifton quotes "can this tounge speak can these bones walk Grace Of God can this sin live" which also did not come to an end because she is describing how a slave does not have any freedom to control its own life which continued for a long period of time.
Brianna Askew / Period4 Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton neglect using punctuations because its gives the reading more of an effect. Also it makes the diction choice stand out more. For an example in the poem "slaveships" the line as "our bloody ankles Jesus Angel" has more of an effective on the reader because the sentence does not stop and it gives the reader a better image of whats happening.
Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton didn't use punctuations to show how african americans were treated as objects and that slave owners can use them for labor to achieve wealth. Also, the non stop action against african americans and the constant struggle in the fight against slavery.
Juancarlos Echeverria Period 4 I believe that Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton didn't use punciation and capitalization as away of both imagery and experiencing the time the captured africans had while being on the ship. For example in "Beloved" Morrison dosen't use them as away of showing it's never ending. Throught the paragrahs there wasn't a single period, except in the first sentence, to show the reader that everyday on the boat was the same routine over andd over again. These included the drinking of their "morning water" when thursty to only a few people being able to eat. Another example, is their cry for help from God, Jesus, and the angels. In "Slaveships" Clifton describes how one of the captured africans felt whille being on the ship. They also describe their sorrows from the rejection of protection from Jesus to the pain of their bloody ankles. Their lack of punctuation and capitaliztion also makes it impossible to stop reading, in any form of literature the use of periods are so the reader can reflect on what they have read and to take a brake as well. However, in these two women's writing they instead remove them and by doing so, it makes the reader unable to stop reading. Even if it's something important that the reader has todo, they simply can't stop without knowing what happens next. These women use a unique writing style that captures the reader and engulfs them to the point were minutes turn into hours.
Toni Marrison's lack of punctuation was intended for to help the reader better understand the mentality state of the captives. Being kidnapped and forced to board a ship, without any knowledge of your future would surely bring fear and desperation upon the captives. The lack of punctuation," I am standing in the rain falling the others are taken", helps in this case because it shows how the narrator is unable to think rationally, unable to think one thing at a time because things she knew were changing far too quickly(251). By using this unique way of writing, Morrison enables the reader to better understand and feel the deteriorating mindset of the captives in that moment because it forces the reader to read the lines the way the captives were feeling emotionally.
Maybe it's because Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton felt that it wasn't necessary since they were writing about past experiences and back then they weren't taught and didn't know how to properly read and write.
The choice of purposely neglecting punctuation in both Morison's "Beloved" and Clifton’s poem “slaveships” presents to readers the sorrow and gloomy feeling which engulfed, abducted Africans .The reason why punctuation is used in literature is to send the aroma of real life to the readers with its added emotions.For instance if a speaker is delivering a speech s/he might take a pause to introduce a new idea or just pause briefly to gather back the listener attention.The same thing could be applied to literature when the author uses a period it signifies them introducing a new idea or simply trying to gain the readers attention.The complete neglect of punctuation by both Morison and Clifton presents a mundane feeling to readers. Ultimately this mundane feeling leads one to conclude the author was trying to embody the emotion of sorrow and gloom that so many Africans faced aboard slave ships. Inaddtion Clifton does something different in her poem, she choose only to capitalize “Angel, God and Grace Of God”.Capitalizing these words were to signify its importance, during post capture Africans would rely on religion to combat the anguish which was consistent.By Clifton making words relating to religious capital she elucidated to reader that despite the dehumanizing aspects aboard the Slave ship individual still kept their faint in their supreme being.
i agree with Ms.Harris' belief that we should try to follow rules and laws of our government so that we can save lives instead of lose them. its true, after law enforcement takes advantage of their power, many citizens start jumping to conclusions and stereotypes about how our governement works. Many people began saying all cops are horrible crooked cops and that all our government does is try to take advantage with all their power. but i believe the purpose of some cops having to use more enforcement is because of how some people just cant obey the law. If citizens were to listen to the authorities and simply not resist any of the commands, many people could avoid losing their loved ones and having bad things happen to the ones they love.
Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton did not use punctuation and capitalization, so that the reader wouldn't stop reading because punctuations usually indicates the reader to stop reading.In addition, capitalization indicates the reader that they have started a new sentence.
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It is almost as if Toni Morrison as well as Lucile Clifton exclude the use of punctuation in order to show the idea of this is continuous and never ending. My position is that the exclusion of punctuation simply tells the reader that this was continuous, the slave trade, the slave sips, race supremacy were ideas that never reached a stop sign. Lucile Clifton also incorporates the idea of religion and faith in order to show that African Americans attempted to believe in a superior power, but during these horrific events, some lost faith, "Jesus why do you not protect us" from "slaveships" shows the decision of whether to believe in religion or not. Yes, extricating punctuation gave the idea to not stop reading and figure out the unethical and immoral actions that the world partook in. Also since punctuation isn't included, it is like fragments, or ideas derived from a slave's mind.
DeleteI thinkToni Morrison and Lucille Clifton neglect to use punctuation and capitalization when writing about the Middle Passage because maybe it wasn't meant t have punctuation, I think that it was just them pouring out their feelings like a bucket filled of emotions.
ReplyDeleteToni Morrison and Lucille Clifton didn't use punctuation because they want to show the tempo of the situation that the African American people were in. Everything was happening so fast for the African Americans on the slave ships. So Toni Morrison didn't but any punctuation because she didn't want the reading to slow or stop. She wanted to illustrate the same pace that was going on in the slave ships, in her reading.
ReplyDeletei disagree with caroline and agree with juan because i don't think they were trying to let out there emotions for themselves . i think they were trying to make the reader feel a type of way. for example when i read it, i felt like it was emotional for me and weird as well
ReplyDeleteMaybe they wanted to explain to us that since periods at the end of a sentence mean it ended they didn't want end their sentences because slavery never ended they just wanted to keep going.
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Toni Morrison and Lucille clifton neglect to use punctuation and capitalization because when reading it there is no stoping like for example in "slaveships" Lucille clifton has a fast tempo and aggressive tone and i believe she wanted the reader to maintain that tone non stop so thats why i believed they did not use any punctuation or capitalization
ReplyDeleteThe lack of punctuation in both Clifton and Morrison's works contribute to an overall panicked and frantic tone. Being captured and loaded onto a slave ship is surely a nerve-wracking experience, and the long stream of words without any stops or pauses conveys this. If the line from Morrison's beloved, which reads, "...there will never be a time when I am not crouching too I am always crouching the man on my face is dead...", was to be written with correct punctuation, there would be an unfitting sense of clarity to what the narrator is saying. The narrator is emotionally distressed, so the writing is disorderly to reflect this as well. In Clifton’s poem, the narrator is distraught, and severely uncomfortable in the slave ship they’ve been forced onto, and describe the unsanitary conditions of the interior of the ship, describing as they were, “loaded like spoons into the belly of Jesus where we lay for weeks for months in the sweat and stink of our own breathing.” By omitting the punctuation from her poem, Clifton can present to the reader a large portion of hard-hitting statements in a short amount of time. Were there full stops between each description, the reader would be able to pause and process what they are reading- the constant barrage of brutal imagery overwhelms the reader and helps them share the extremely distressed feelings that the narrator is experiencing.
ReplyDeleteEverything was happening so fast for the blacks on the slave ships. I also see Elizabeth and Juan's point of view now why Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton did not use punctuation and capitalization, so that the reader wouldn't stop reading because punctuations usually indicates the reader to stop reading.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Juan and it seems to me that the Lucile Clifton didn't put any punctuation especially at what seems to be the end of the poem to show that it has a continuation indicating that this problem hasn't stopped and it has not come to a resolution any time soon. The slave ships were a big fear for the africans and they were more willing to suicide by drowning rather than to be controlled by the "white man" and become enslaved and to become less of a person in their eyes as tools or as animals to be whipped and beaten.
ReplyDeleteThe poem gave me a sence of being lost and scared when it was said, " why do you not protect us" giving us a sence of reliance and attachment to religion and it is on going throughout the poem.
DeleteI think these authors do not use punctuation and capitalization to show a different style of writing to allow readers to be confused but take the time to interpret the message of the video that was shown in class.
ReplyDeleteToni Morrison and Lucille Clifton neglect to use punctuation and capitalization when writing about the middle passage because they're trying to express how the discrimination never stops and how their feelings on this subject never ends. When Clifton says "why do you not protect us chained to the heart of the Angel where the prayers we never tell and hot and red as our bloody ankles" (Clifton
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ReplyDeleteThe lack of punctuation indicates the none ending pain that the slaves suffered. Periods show the end to a sentence, end of an idea, end of an action. However, the pain never stopped. Slaves suffered until their last breath, " lay for weeks for months in the sweat and stink" There was no time to rest for the slaves, they only knew suffer. Commas show a pause, but yet again, pain continued. The reader can't pause because of lack of punctuation all they have to do is continue to read the pain.
Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton did not use punctuation in there writing because there writing did not end like most thoughts of black lives on slavery. They were also trying to show the tempo on how extended slavery was without an ending. Lucille Clifton quotes "can this tounge speak can these bones walk Grace Of God can this sin live" which also did not come to an end because she is describing how a slave does not have any freedom to control its own life which continued for a long period of time.
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ReplyDeleteToni Morrison and Lucille Clifton neglect using punctuations because its gives the reading more of an effect. Also it makes the diction choice stand out more. For an example in the poem "slaveships" the line as "our bloody ankles Jesus Angel" has more of an effective on the reader because the sentence does not stop and it gives the reader a better image of whats happening.
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ReplyDeleteToni Morrison and Lucille Clifton didn't use punctuations to show how african americans were treated as objects and that slave owners can use them for labor to achieve wealth. Also, the non stop action against african americans and the constant struggle in the fight against slavery.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton didn't use punciation and capitalization as away of both imagery and experiencing the time the captured africans had while being on the ship. For example in "Beloved" Morrison dosen't use them as away of showing it's never ending. Throught the paragrahs there wasn't a single period, except in the first sentence, to show the reader that everyday on the boat was the same routine over andd over again. These included the drinking of their "morning water" when thursty to only a few people being able to eat. Another example, is their cry for help from God, Jesus, and the angels. In "Slaveships" Clifton describes how one of the captured africans felt whille being on the ship. They also describe their sorrows from the rejection of protection from Jesus to the pain of their bloody ankles. Their lack of punctuation and capitaliztion also makes it impossible to stop reading, in any form of literature the use of periods are so the reader can reflect on what they have read and to take a brake as well. However, in these two women's writing they instead remove them and by doing so, it makes the reader unable to stop reading. Even if it's something important that the reader has todo, they simply can't stop without knowing what happens next. These women use a unique writing style that captures the reader and engulfs them to the point were minutes turn into hours.
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ReplyDeleteToni Marrison's lack of punctuation was intended for to help the reader better understand the mentality state of the captives. Being kidnapped and forced to board a ship, without any knowledge of your future would surely bring fear and desperation upon the captives. The lack of punctuation," I am standing in the rain falling the others are taken", helps in this case because it shows how the narrator is unable to think rationally, unable to think one thing at a time because things she knew were changing far too quickly(251). By using this unique way of writing, Morrison enables the reader to better understand and feel the deteriorating mindset of the captives in that moment because it forces the reader to read the lines the way the captives were feeling emotionally.
Maybe it's because Toni Morrison and Lucille Clifton felt that it wasn't necessary since they were writing about past experiences and back then they weren't taught and didn't know how to properly read and write.
ReplyDeleteThe choice of purposely neglecting punctuation in both Morison's "Beloved" and Clifton’s poem “slaveships” presents to readers the sorrow and gloomy feeling which engulfed, abducted Africans .The reason why punctuation is used in literature is to send the aroma of real life to the readers with its added emotions.For instance if a speaker is delivering a speech s/he might take a pause to introduce a new idea or just pause briefly to gather back the listener attention.The same thing could be applied to literature when the author uses a period it signifies them introducing a new idea or simply trying to gain the readers attention.The complete neglect of punctuation by both Morison and Clifton presents a mundane feeling to readers. Ultimately this mundane feeling leads one to conclude the author was trying to embody the emotion of sorrow and gloom that so many Africans faced aboard slave ships. Inaddtion Clifton does something different in her poem, she choose only to capitalize “Angel, God and Grace Of God”.Capitalizing these words were to signify its importance, during post capture Africans would rely on religion to combat the anguish which was consistent.By Clifton making words relating to religious capital she elucidated to reader that despite the dehumanizing aspects aboard the Slave ship individual still kept their faint in their supreme being.
ReplyDeletei agree with Ms.Harris' belief that we should try to follow rules and laws of our government so that we can save lives instead of lose them. its true, after law enforcement takes advantage of their power, many citizens start jumping to conclusions and stereotypes about how our governement works. Many people began saying all cops are horrible crooked cops and that all our government does is try to take advantage with all their power. but i believe the purpose of some cops having to use more enforcement is because of how some people just cant obey the law. If citizens were to listen to the authorities and simply not resist any of the commands, many people could avoid losing their loved ones and having bad things happen to the ones they love.
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